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== Thruster Types ==
 
== Thruster Types ==
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[[File:Thruster_efficiency_earthlike.jpg|800px|thumb|right|Thruster efficiency on the Earth-like planet (default settings) ]]
 
[[File:Thruster_efficiency_earthlike.jpg|800px|thumb|right|Thruster efficiency on the Earth-like planet (default settings) ]]
  
;Online calculator:<br>[http://se-speed.ga Online calculator] to calculate the thrust at planets and moons.
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;Online calculator:<br>[https://se.analytixresearch.com Online Calculator] to calculate the thrust at planets and moons.
  
 
;Note:<br>One should also keep in mind, that depending on the ships orientation during maneuvering, not all downward thrusters will actually contribute 100% to the ships lift.<br>If the thrusters are angled away from the the planets center of gravity, their effective lift value will decrease accordingly. A thruster angled at 45 degree will only contribute cos(45°) = 70.7% of its total force for lift. If not taken into account, this can make a ship plummet to the ground when not maneuvering it carefully<br>due to insufficient lateral thruster force when rolling the aircraft too much for example. So this should be calculated or tested before actually finishing a ship design to prevent a bad surprise.
 
;Note:<br>One should also keep in mind, that depending on the ships orientation during maneuvering, not all downward thrusters will actually contribute 100% to the ships lift.<br>If the thrusters are angled away from the the planets center of gravity, their effective lift value will decrease accordingly. A thruster angled at 45 degree will only contribute cos(45°) = 70.7% of its total force for lift. If not taken into account, this can make a ship plummet to the ground when not maneuvering it carefully<br>due to insufficient lateral thruster force when rolling the aircraft too much for example. So this should be calculated or tested before actually finishing a ship design to prevent a bad surprise.
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===Visual Damage Sizes for all Thrusters (as of 1.198.033)===
 
===Visual Damage Sizes for all Thrusters (as of 1.198.033)===

Latest revision as of 07:08, 7 November 2024

Thrusters are the primary means that ships use to move around. Thrusters only provide direct linear thrust in the direction away from the nozzle. Regardless of their physical position on the ship, they will not apply any torque or cause any rotation of the ship.(see Gyroscope). As long as the thruster is directly connected to the Grid (not a sub-grid or attached via Landing Gear), they will provide thrust from the center of mass so there is little restriction on placement. There are three types of thrusters: Atmospheric thrusters which are electrically powered and only work in the atmosphere of a planet, Ion-based thrusters that use electricity and work in vacuum, and powerful Hydrogen thrusters which require Hydrogen as a fuel.

Overview

Block size Thruster Dimensions Volume Maximum
Thrust
Mass Max Power
Consumption
Max Hydrogen
Consumption
Thrust-to-Mass Thrust-to-Size Thrust-to-Power Flame Length
Large Ship Icon.png Large Large Atmospheric Thruster Icon.png Large Atmospheric Thruster 3,3,5 703.125 m3 6,480 kN 32,970 kg 16.8 MW N/A 197 N/kg 9 kN/m3 386 kN/MW 11.23 m
Large Ship Icon.png Large Small Atmospheric Thruster Icon.png Atmospheric Thruster 1,1,3 46.875 m3 648 kN 4,000 kg 2.4 MW N/A 162 N/kg 14 kN/m3 270 kN/MW 3.59 m
Large Ship Icon.png Large LargeFlatAtmosphericThrusterLarge.png Large Flat Atmospheric Thruster 3,3,2 281.25 m3 2,600 kN 12,190 kg 6.7 MW N/A 213 N/kg 9 kN/m3 388 kN/MW 0 m
Large Ship Icon.png Large LargeFlatAtmosphericThrusterSmall.png Flat Atmospheric Thruster 1,1,1 15.625 m3 200 kN 1,273 kg 0.8 MW N/A 157 N/kg 13 kN/m3 250 kN/MW 0 m
Large Ship Icon.png Large Large Hydrogen Thruster Icon.png Large Hydrogen Thruster 3,3,3 421.875 m3 7,200 kN 6,940 kg N/A 4,820 L/s 1,037 N/kg 17 kN/m3 960 kN/MW 15.15 m
Large Ship Icon.png Large Small Hydrogen Thruster Icon.png Hydrogen Thruster 1,1,1 15.625 m3 1,080 kN 1,420 kg N/A 803 L/s 761 N/kg 69 kN/m3 864 kN/MW 4.75 m
Large Ship Icon.png Large Large Thruster Icon.png Large Ion Thruster 3,2,4 375 m3 4,320 kN 43,200 kg 33.6 MW N/A 100 N/kg 12 kN/m3 129 kN/MW 11.9 m
Large Ship Icon.png Large Small Thruster Icon.png Ion Thruster 1,1,2 31.25 m3 345.6 kN 4,380 kg 3.36 MW N/A 79 N/kg 11 kN/m3 103 kN/MW 6.6 m
Small Ship Icon.png Small Large Atmospheric Thruster Icon.png Large Atmospheric Thruster 3,3,5 5.625 m3 576 kN 2,948 kg 2.4 MW N/A 195 N/kg 102 kN/m3 240 kN/MW 2.21 m
Small Ship Icon.png Small Small Atmospheric Thruster Icon.png Atmospheric Thruster 1,1,3 0.375 m3 96 kN 699 kg 0.6 MW N/A 137 N/kg 256 kN/m3 160 kN/MW 0.68 m
Small Ship Icon.png Small SmallFlatAtmosphericThrusterLarge.png Large Flat Atmospheric Thruster 3,3,2 2.25 m3 230 kN 1,060 kg 1 MW N/A 217 N/kg 102 kN/m3 230 kN/MW 0 m
Small Ship Icon.png Small SmallFlatAtmosphericThrusterSmall.png Flat Atmospheric Thruster 1,1,1 0.125 m3 32 kN 303 kg 0.2 MW N/A 106 N/kg 256 kN/m3 160 kN/MW 0 m
Small Ship Icon.png Small Large Hydrogen Thruster Icon.png Large Hydrogen Thruster 3,3,3 3.375 m3 480 kN 1,222 kg N/A 386 L/s 393 N/kg 142 kN/m3 800 kN/MW 3.32 m
Small Ship Icon.png Small Small Hydrogen Thruster Icon.png Hydrogen Thruster 1,1,1 0.125 m3 98.4 kN 334 kg N/A 80 L/s 295 N/kg 787 kN/m3 787 kN/MW 0.71 m
Small Ship Icon.png Small Large Thruster Icon.png Large Ion Thruster 3,2,4 3 m3 172.8 kN 721 kg 2.4 MW N/A 240 N/kg 58 kN/m3 72 kN/MW 1.98 m
Small Ship Icon.png Small Small Thruster Icon.png Ion Thruster 1,1,2 0.25 m3 14.4 kN 121 kg 0.2 MW N/A 119 N/kg 58 kN/m3 72 kN/MW 0.69 m

Note: Flame Length for flat atmospheric thrusters is not 0. It appears as 0 in the table because the source data is missing.

Thruster Types

Ion Thruster (Electrical)

Large Thruster LThrust01.jpg

All standard Electric-based Ion thrusters will consume a minimum of 0.002 kW (2 Watts), even when not in use. They use electricity to generate thrust, their power consumption scales linearly with what percentage (as seen on the thrust override slider) the thruster is operating at. It's effectiveness is inversely dependent on the density of the atmosphere, having an actual effectiveness anywhere from 30% at minimum to full effectiveness outside planetary atmospheres - becoming increasingly less effective the thicker the atmosphere.

Hydrogen Thruster

Large Hydrogen Thruster

All Hydrogen-based thrusters require a Conveyor connection to a source of Hydrogen such as an Oxygen Generator or a Hydrogen Tank. (*) Hydrogen based Thrusters despite having a 'power consumption' rating will not actually consume electrical power they ONLY consume Hydrogen from a hydrogen source accessed via conveyors. Their only electrical requirements will be for the hydrogen sources that store or make hydrogen and the Conveyor system. Each Hydrogen Thruster consumes a tiny amount of Hydrogen even if not active (as seen with its 'pilot light'), much like the minimum that electric-based thrusters have. Their effectiveness is entirely unaffected by the presence of planetary atmospheres, being equally effective everywhere.

Atmospheric Thruster

Large Atmos Thruster

All atmospheric thrusters thrust output is entirely dependent on the density of the atmosphere around the thruster and only work in planetary atmospheres, being most powerful near the surface and becoming linearly less powerful further out. Typically the thruster will never achieve it's rated maximum during usual play even directly on the surface (which is typically around 90% max efficiency). They much like standard thrusters use electricity to function and consume a minimum amount of 0.002 kW (2 Watts) even when not in use.

Effectiveness In Natural Gravity

To get an idea how many thrusters are needed to make a ship hover in the air while under the influence of natural gravity,
the following calculation should help:

 Lift [kg] = engine force [N] * effectivity [unitless] / acceleration due to gravity [m/s²]

Example: 1 Large Atmospheric Thruster on a small ship has a force magnitude of 408,000 N and an effectiveness of 90% at sea level.
So on an earth-like planet on sea level it can lift:

 L = (408,000 N * 0.9) / 9.81 m/s² = 37,431 [kg]

Where 9.81 m/s² = 1.0 g on Earth.
Or to just check if it will fly with 4 thrusters and a mass of 120,000 kg:

 F = (4 * 408,000 N * 0.9)
 m = 120,000 kg
 a[min] = 9.81 m/s²
 a[curr] = (4 * 408,000 * 0.9) / 120,000 kg = 12.24 m/s² > 9.81 m/s² ===> will fly!

So if the ships downward thrusters total lift is greater than the ships mass,
the ship will be able to hover and fly.

This value decreases linearly with the decreasing air density in greater heights. The air density is different for each planet type.

Thruster efficiency on the Earth-like planet (default settings)
Online calculator

Online Calculator to calculate the thrust at planets and moons.
Note

One should also keep in mind, that depending on the ships orientation during maneuvering, not all downward thrusters will actually contribute 100% to the ships lift.
If the thrusters are angled away from the the planets center of gravity, their effective lift value will decrease accordingly. A thruster angled at 45 degree will only contribute cos(45°) = 70.7% of its total force for lift. If not taken into account, this can make a ship plummet to the ground when not maneuvering it carefully
due to insufficient lateral thruster force when rolling the aircraft too much for example. So this should be calculated or tested before actually finishing a ship design to prevent a bad surprise.
Note2

The "x5" / "x10" inventory setting will also have an effect on the calculation.
The game will divide the cargo mass by the set inventory multiplier when calculating thruster lift.
So a cargo mass of 100,000 kg will only count as 10,000 kg if "x10" inventory multiplier is set.
This means, a ship with atmospheric thrusters can potentially lift 10 times more cargo mass with the same thrust than it normally could, if a "x10" inventory multiplier is set.
However, the right HUD panel when inside of a ship doesn't correct the cargo mass to reflect the mass taken into account for lift.
So that means, when having a ship with net mass of 100,000 kg and transporting 100,000 kg of cargo with a 10x inventory multiplier,
the panel will show 200,000 kg of mass while in reality it will take only 110,000 kg (ship mass + cargo/10) of mass into account for calculation of lift ability.

Thruster Damage

If Thruster Damage is enabled for a map or server, thruster flames will deal damage while active to any blocks directly behind within a certain distance with a few exceptions making it possible to build "landing pads" for small ships. The "danger zone" varies in size based on the thrust being applied by the thruster. Larger thrusters can deal damage further out than smaller thrusters.

The table above and the images below give an indication of the damage distances for small and large thrusters and ships. They apply only to blocks directly behind the thruster, and do not account for damage to adjacent blocks.

All thrusters from standard thrusters, hydrogen and Atmospheric deal thruster damage to varying degrees if enabled, generally the more powerful the thruster the larger the danger zone becomes.

Note: The ranges displayed in this gallery are outdated. Refer to the overview table for accurate flame (damage) lengths.

Thruster Damage Immunity

Small-Grid-sized thruster flames do not damage any block with a Deformation Ratio under 25%; which are listed below:

Large Blocks under 25%:

Blast Door Icon.png Blast doors 
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Blast Door Corner Icon.png Blast door corner 
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Blast Door Inverted Icon.png Blast door corner inverted 
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Blast Door Edge Icon.png Blast door edge 
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16px Light Armor Slope Transition Tip 
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16px Light Armor Slope Transition Tip Mirrored 
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16px Light Armor Square Sloped Corner Tip 
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Control Station Icon.png Control Stations 
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Drill Icon.png Drill 
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HeavyCornerSquare Icon.png Heavy Armor Corner Square Block 
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HeavyHalfCorner Icon.png Heavy Armor Half Corner Block 
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HeavyHalfSlopedCorner Icon.png Heavy Armor Half Sloped Corner 
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HeavyHalfSlopedCornerBase Icon.png Heavy Armor Half Sloped Corner Base 
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16px Heavy Armor Slope Transition 
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16px Heavy Armor Slope Transition Mirrored 
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16px Heavy Armor Slope Transition Tip 
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16px Heavy Armor Slope Transition Tip Mirrored 
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HeavySlopedCorner Icon.png Heavy Armor Sloped Corner 
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16px Heavy Armor Square Sloped Corner Tip 
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16px Heavy Armor Square Sloped Corner Tip Inv. 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 1x1 Right 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 1x1 Left 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 2x2 Right 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 2x2 Left 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 3x3 Right 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 3x3 Left 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 5x5 Right 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 5x5 Left 
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Wheel Suspension 1x1 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 1x1 Right 
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Wheel Suspension 1x1 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 1x1 Left 
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16px Wheel Suspension 2x2 Right 
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16px Wheel Suspension 2x2 Left 
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Wheel Suspension 3x3 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 3x3 Right 
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Wheel Suspension 3x3 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 3x3 Left 
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Wheel Suspension 5x5 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 5x5 Right 
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Wheel Suspension 5x5 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 5x5 Left 

Small Blocks under 25%:

Fighter Cockpit Icon.png Fighter Cockpit 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 1x1 Right 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 1x1 Left 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 2x2 Right 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 2x2 Left 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 3x3 Right 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 3x3 Left 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 5x5 Right 
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16px Offroad Wheel Suspension 5x5 Left 
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Blast Door Icon.png Blast doors 
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Blast Door Corner Icon.png Blast door corner 
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Blast Door Inverted Icon.png Blast door corner inverted 
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Blast Door Edge Icon.png Blast door edge 
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16px Light Armor Slope Transition Tip 
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16px Light Armor Slope Transition Tip Mirrored 
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16px Light Armor Square Sloped Corner Tip 
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Cockpit Icon.png Cockpit 
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Drill Icon.png Drill 
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HeavyCornerSquare Icon.png Heavy Armor Corner Square Block 
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HeavyHalfCorner Icon.png Heavy Armor Half Corner Block 
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HeavyHalfSlopeInverted Icon.png Half Slope Inv. Heavy Armor 
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HeavyHalfSlopedCorner Icon.png Heavy Armor Half Sloped Corner 
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HeavyHalfSlopedCornerBase Icon.png Heavy Armor Half Sloped Corner Base 
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16px Heavy Armor Slope Transition 
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16px Heavy Armor Slope Transition Mirrored 
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16px Heavy Armor Slope Transition Tip 
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16px Heavy Armor Slope Transition Tip Mirrored 
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HeavySlopedCorner Icon.png Heavy Armor Sloped Corner 
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16px Heavy Armor Square Sloped Corner Tip 
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16px Heavy Armor Square Sloped Corner Tip Inv. 
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Heavy Armor Block Icon.png Heavy Armor Block 
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Heavy Armor Corner Icon.png Heavy Armor Corner 
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Heavy Armor Inverted Corner Icon.png Heavy Armor Inv. Corner 
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Heavy Round Armor Corner Icon.png Heavy Armor Round Corner 
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Heavy Round Armor Inv Corner Icon.png Heavy Armor Round Inv. Corner 
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Heavy Round Armor Slope Icon.png Heavy Armor Round Slope 
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Heavy Armor Slope Icon.png Heavy Armor Slope 
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Wheel Suspension 1x1 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 1x1 Right 
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Wheel Suspension 1x1 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 1x1 Left 
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16px Wheel Suspension 2x2 Right 
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16px Wheel Suspension 2x2 Left 
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Wheel Suspension 3x3 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 3x3 Right 
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Wheel Suspension 3x3 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 3x3 Left 
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Wheel Suspension 5x5 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 5x5 Right 
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Wheel Suspension 5x5 Icon.png Wheel Suspension 5x5 Left 

Attention : This doesnt mean the flame doesnt pass these blocks : any block behind will still suffer from damages.

Visual Damage Sizes for all Thrusters (as of 1.198.033)

History

Before Update 01.105, Thrusters used to have two specific modes: a normal thrust and the inertial dampening thrust. Normal Thrust that is used when manually piloting with the keys and mouse or using the thrust override slider and an dampening thrust that is automatic providing 10x more force for 50% more electricity consumption. All Thrusters from large to small when inertial dampening is on and the ship is moving, will kick in and attempt to slow the ship to a stop. Due to this, ships were much more able to come to a complete stop than they were able to accelerate before that update.

Before Update 01.107, all Small Ship thrusters would receive a 5x boost to thrust when under the automatic control of inertial dampeners (not the player or 'thrust override') attempting to stop the ship, for no increase in both power usage or fuel usage.

Currently all kinds of thrusters (whether small or large ship) do not have any special super-dampening capabilities beyond their rated maximum thrust and power consumption.